Onision Drama

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sirchubbybunny:

The more I see Greg complaining about fans going to him about their “first world problems”, the more I remember my time on his forums when myself and a few top ranking members collaborated on making a resource list of contact numbers and websites in case they were in trouble and needed help; from suicide hotlines to numbers for rape survivors, runaways and LGBTQ youth.

While I’m sure the forums have changed; it was always nice to see fans come together to show that we’d look out for one another. It’s kind of sad that Greg can’t be as compassionate.

(via chaseagainstonision)

sirchubbybunny:

lolitaswonderland:

Come fucking on, people. He is not a psychiatrist…

If he has a problem with fans asking him for advice, then he should stop making “advice” videos; where he acts like he knows more about hot topic issues than those who are in the fields of said research or have been through it.
Getting mad at fans for going to him for help is sad, especially since much of his fanbase consists of 13-17 olds who more than likely the loner type with too many thoughts in their head who fear ridicule and judgment. I don’t blame them for going to him with questions, hell, I was one of them when I was heavily suicidal and lonely.
There’s a difference between being gentle with helping fans find the courage to reach out and then there’s slapping the taste out of their mouth and telling them that he hates them and they need to go fuck themselves. I agree with the people who commented. While he was through and through, a rotten person—he was at least tolerable when he acted like he gave a shit about his fans.
So no, instead of defending someone who has no respect or heart for the people who gave him his success; he could at least act more compassionate.

sirchubbybunny:

lolitaswonderland:

Come fucking on, people. He is not a psychiatrist…

If he has a problem with fans asking him for advice, then he should stop making “advice” videos; where he acts like he knows more about hot topic issues than those who are in the fields of said research or have been through it.

Getting mad at fans for going to him for help is sad, especially since much of his fanbase consists of 13-17 olds who more than likely the loner type with too many thoughts in their head who fear ridicule and judgment. I don’t blame them for going to him with questions, hell, I was one of them when I was heavily suicidal and lonely.

There’s a difference between being gentle with helping fans find the courage to reach out and then there’s slapping the taste out of their mouth and telling them that he hates them and they need to go fuck themselves. I agree with the people who commented. While he was through and through, a rotten person—he was at least tolerable when he acted like he gave a shit about his fans.

So no, instead of defending someone who has no respect or heart for the people who gave him his success; he could at least act more compassionate.

forthosewhowilllisten:

Jesus fucking Christ, Onision. Not everything has to be about “who has it worse.”
Every time something bad happens to someone, you immediately try to devalue that persons feeling by saying, “well someone else has it worse.”
Someone suffers from depression? “You’re attention seeking and can’t be depressed because you have a roof over your head.”
Someone self harms? “Well you’re not a starving child in Africa so why would you feel the need to do that?”
2,000 people died in a terrorist attack, and their families still have to live with the loss of their parent or sibling or friend because of it. And what’s your response to it? “Well more people are dying somewhere else.”

Look, I get it. Someone somewhere has it worse. Someone will ALWAYS have it worse. Someone’s problems will always be bigger, more destructive, more chaotic. We should care about the lives of so many people being lost in Syria.

But that does not mean you should trivialise or discredit one’s feelings because someone else has it worse.

(via chaseagainstonision)

prettypekuliar:

Trigger warning: 9/11

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This argument is ridiculous, nonsensical and completely misguided not to mention the astounding double standard that you of course also reinforce in this video. Looks like you’ve made it a tradition to make an even bigger fool of yourself on 9/11 every year.

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You attack people grieving the loss of human life (on the specific date when a tragedy took place) for not grieving the particular loss of human life you imply is more worthy of being grieved (because it happened more recently and the amount of people who lost their life is higher) and then end it by saying every loss of human life is equal. Explain to me how that makes sense.

You are criticizing the wrong people. The people you should criticize are not those showing respect for human beings who lost their life in a great tragedy but rather those who, like yourself, mock the loss of human life and treat tragedies as competitions.

Any loss of human life is a tragedy in my eyes but it’s natural to be more strongly affected by the loss of a loved one or a tragedy that hits close to home. There’s nothing discriminatory or wrong with that. It doesn’t mean you don’t view humans as equal or that you view others as less important and it also doesn’t mean you don’t also have great respect and feel sadness over people in other parts of this world who have lost their lives in wars and other tragedies.

I’m sure everyone, especially those who have lost a loved one in a tragedy, have nothing but respect and grief in their hearts towards people who have lost their lives in wars and other tragedies. I don’t understand why you seem to see this as a clash of interests, that it’s either this or that. Most people have more room in their hearts than you. What happens in Syria is horrible and I think we all agree on that, but what does it have to do with people mourning the loss of their loved ones in 9/11? There are other people you should criticize for what is going on in Syria.

One day every year it will be 9/11 and for many it will literally be like 9/11 all over in many aspects. People lost family members and friends. The fact you cannot even on this specific day let people grieve their loss of loved ones without finding something to attack them for leaves you the only heartless person in this equation and the only one not respecting human life.

What problem are you trying to solve? The “problem” of people grieving the loss of their loved ones? 

Your perception of this topic is twisted and completely illogical, as always, and you’re really in no position to criticize people for not grieving the loss of human lives. You are the one making videos mocking people who died in a horrible tragedy. You are the one making videos mocking suicide victims. You are the one making a living off of doing these things. Before you criticize people for mourning, maybe learn a thing or two from them about respecting human life and then I suggest you take a look in the mirror and realize you are talking about yourself.

Re-posting for blocked out title. I deleted all previous posts on this topic to hopefully hide the identity of the family member.

Re-cap for future readers: Onision decided to “call out” (aka humiliate) an underage family member from Lainey’s side of the family on his Facebook fan-page. This person wanted nothing to do with Greg and/or Lainey’s fan-base and previously went to great lengths to have their social media accounts not be associated with Lainey’s for this reasonThey never said anything ill of him publicly before, during, or after this incident. Lainey hasn’t said anything about this on her social media and has taken a hiatus. Greg still stands by everything he said. He deleted the bigger statuses, only to copy and paste small bits of them shortly after, leaving out the person’s relation to him. This person has made their accounts private, most likely due to hate they have been receiving from Onision’s fans.

The Skinny Pact

prettypekuliar:

I have once again been reminded how little many of his fans know about Greg and his views and I think that’s problematic. I don’t know how many times I’ve seen bananas extremely shocked when presented with one part of Greg’s behavior they had no idea about and I don’t know how many bananas I’ve seen turn against Greg when enlightened about his appalling views and statements. With that in mind I wish more bananas would become aware of who he really is and make an actual informed decision when it comes to supporting Greg and in what way.

This time it is in regards to the skinny pact he made with his ex-wife. I saw some comments on Greg’s Facebook posts (they tend to be hilarious, even his own fans make the most spot on comments) and a lot of people sincerely believed that the skinny pact was something we “haters” have made up to make Greg look bad, such as here:

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This is of course not the truth and it is indeed correct that Greg made a skinny pact with is ex wife, although I don’t blame bananas for getting defensive and claiming we make things up since that is what Greg’s own defense usually consists of. There is never too late to learn of the things Greg has done and to change your mind but it is also perfectly fine to simply not agree with everything he says and does (even if Greg doesn’t allow that) yet still like some of his content. Anyway, here it is, the infamous skinny-pact-video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kY6u73rgOCM

In case you don’t want to watch it, I’ll quote the part that is relevant to this post:

The other agreement is that we will stay skinny, and I don’t want to offend any fat people needlessly… uhm… But here’s the thing: For us it’s really hard to maintain attraction for each other when we know that that person is intentionally, consciously, letting themselves go. Uhm… If it’s out of our control and we’re trying - okay, that’s not as big of a deal. But if we’re being so disrespectful as to… forget, the necessity uhm… that is physical attraction as far as love-making and so forth uhm… then… that is to say that your own needs, your own desires, are more important than that other person and thus you don’t really care that much about the marriage… Or at least not as much as you care about yourself. (*sigh*)

I’ve noticed that a lot of people, when they get married, let themselves go and that is something that I have feared in, uhm, getting married myself. That either I or she will let ourselves go.

This video is still up on his channel and in this video he also encourages his viewers to have the same agreement with their partner. As you can see, us “haters” didn’t make this up. There’s no need to make things up when it comes to Greg, he does a perfect job providing asshatery and ignorance on his own. 

The particular facebook comments I showed were on this post of his:

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So why not quickly comment on this as well. This is pretty funny coming from him. In the video where he presented us with the skinny pact he clearly shows that he is so obsessed with looks that if his wife would gain weight he fears their marriage wouldn’t survive.This guy doesn’t just care about looks, he is obsessed with looks.

He doesn’t just not like his partner being overweight, he actually fears a possible outcome where his partner gains weight (that’s the word he used himself). And this isn’t for health reasons (after all weight gain isn’t unhealthy by nature, it can be both healthy and unhealthy). The reason for this pact is solely and simply for him to be able to feel attraction towards her. As he says, if she would gain weight she would put her needs before her husband’s (his) need to feel aroused. And somehow that would be wrong of her… ?

I’ve never encountered anyone who cares so much about looks as this guy does. 

One may argue that this video is old, and yes it is however I would then wonder why is it still on his channel if he doesn’t agree with it anymore? Why does he have a video on his channel where he encourages viewers to have a skinny pact with their partner if he would now be against the idea? If he found the idea problematic, why would he keep the video uploaded? The day he removes that video and stops reiterating the same or similar ideas is when I’ll consider not holding it against him anymore. 

Anonymous asked: so what is your general consensus about onision and what's so negative about him?

onisionisproblematic:

My general consensus is that he is a manipulative sociopath who does what he does to get what he wants when he wants it. He consistently and constantly spreads misinformation and perpetuates stereotypes in a way that is wholly negative. He poses as a false intellectual, his arguments in favor of himself and his ideals are all logical fallacies and run around in a giant circle in order to undermine the beliefs and feelings of others and his fans see this and take it as him being intelligent when really he never— ever— addresses issues head on and in a clear cut manner. The negative behaviors and beliefs he exhibits transfer and are often adopted by his fans, creating and furthering the negative environment he stews in. And much worse, because he claims anyone speaking against him “isn’t a true fan” and is “immediately wrong” and his fans believe that, they see nothing wrong with their own or his actions no matter what evidence is brought to the table or what you tell him.

So my general consensus is that Greg is a cancer in the YouTube community and as a lot of cancers go, this spreads to his audience in ways that are often not realized until it’s too late to do much of anything about it. He is hardly a good role model, his judgement are often clouded by his narcissism and he has so many lies that he can’t keep up with them.

Onision is the worst kind of problematic, he’s the kind of problematic that seems both charismatic and outwardly intellectual, he’s the kind of problematic that makes his fans think he’s right about everything and he’s the kind of brainwashing problematic that tells you if you disagree with him, you’re trash, not a fan, and a general piece of shit and because of his charisma his young fans seek out his approval so they run with every little thing he says without realization they’re feeding in to his ignorance.

That’s my general consensus as long winded as it is.

Sometimes I feel like he doesn’t actually consider what he says, there are some things unrelated to relationships that deserve privacy.
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Didn’t he complain about Shiloh doing similar things to him? 

Sometimes I feel like he doesn’t actually consider what he says, there are some things unrelated to relationships that deserve privacy.

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Didn’t he complain about Shiloh doing similar things to him?