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How much of the past would YOU write about?

eivitunpaskaa:

You all know that for some reason Greg loves blasting his ex girlfriends and ex-wife. This isn’t anything new. He has done this since at LEAST 2005. I went through and edited names and some places because these people actually exist. What they actually had to do with Greg, I don’t know. But I don’t want people finding them on facebook and bringing up some dark feelings from someone from the past. I made this list to only contain the girls in his past (As of 2005). These are all his words. And keep in mind, he’s married here. How pissed off would you be if your husband or wife went on for pages about their ex’s. Emotional abuse much? I can’t stress enough how insane this list is. Also, Greg claims he doesn’t have many memories from before 11, but he remembers all girls he was lusting after from age 8 and up in detail. Greg, fuck you for ever actually putting these girls first and last names on any of your sites then saying they’re drug user and cheaters. They were what 14-15, they don’t need to be shamed by you for ANYTHING. This is a long list, so take breaks while reading for your own sanity. Please. (if somehow I forgot to pull a name out, fuck I am so sorry)

oh oh! I forgot to add my favorite part! It’s where he tries to shame an ex girlfriend because she is married and having a kid out of high school. Isn’t your wife fresh out of high school and pregnant? Chew your words, they’re tough.

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flowers--and--silence asked: The stuff you said on Onision is so stupid. Those posts are from different times. He mightn't have figured out his sexuality completely before he wrote each post. Even if he did keep changing the 'label' he put on his sexuality he doesn't change it to 'suit' anyone. In no way would changing the label that he sexually identifies with be a change that was made in order to make a point. Also even if he did say his sexuality was different it wouldn't matter because sexuality is irrelevant.

moralvirus:

prettypekuliar:

I agree that post was a bit stupid, I apologize. I normally only make science related post and I think maybe I should stick to that honestly. 

Anyway, I clearly expressed myself poorly so let me explain what I meant.

First of all, all the pictures were recent except the one from 2011 and the only reason I included it (I thought about leaving it out since it is a bit outdated) is because it shows he has had three years to educate himself about the sexual orientations he claims to identify with but he is still just as ignorant as he was back then. It’s not weird to come to new realizations about your sexuality over three years, that’s perfectly fine by all means and in no way did I try to imply otherwise. I apologize if it came off as something else, that was really not my intention.

The problem is not sexuality in itself, I agree with you that it is irrelevant and I don’t care what sexuality Greg claims to identify with. The problem is that he is manipulative and changes whatever he needs to change to manipulate his fans that he is tolerant, like this:

He claims to be pansexual or to at least be attracted to men when it suits him, like in a scenario as the one above but at the same time there are screenshots from today and all the way back to 2004 of him consistently claiming he doesn’t like men and can’t be attracted to them. It happens simultaneously. When it isn’t needed of him to be portrayed as an open-minded and tolerant guy he is openly heterosexual and when he is accused of being homophobic, he is all of a sudden attracted to men too. This is often the case.

I don’t expect you to understand what I mean, I’m not good at explaining these things it seems but if you have any questions feel free to ask me and I’ll try and express myself better. Most of the people who have followed Greg for quite a while probably know what I mean when I say he is deceiving and manipulative. The topic doesn’t have to be sexuality, it can be depression or anything else. He seem to not even be able to keep track of his own lies anymore, he’s literally all over the place.

My criticism lies not in him being pansexual, heterosexual or bisexual or whatever he is. It lies in the fact that he has had a long time to be able to educate himself yet is still just as ignorant as he ever was when it comes to sexual orientations, as he shows in this post for example:



My criticism lies also in that there seems to be an overwhelming pattern of him changing his story when it suits him and that goes for almost any topic he speaks about, as I said, it’s not about sexuality but about how he acts and speaks.


^^^this is a thought he has expressed multiple times. 

"It’s not truly love unless you’re able to feel attraction towards any sex and gender".  

Oh.

That’s not the purpose of gay people and that is only adding to the stereotype that all gay people are the same, a stereotype they have to fight to get rid of.

And there you go, a little taste of his understanding of different sexual orientations despite having had years to educate himself.

I hope I can get my point across better this time. It’s not by any means wrong to come to new realizations about your sexuality. The problem with Greg is that he due to his ignorance spreads lousy stereotypes about sexual orientations and that he seems to change his mind not due to coming to a new realization regarding his sexuality but due to his need to come off as something that he perhaps isn’t. I don’t care what sexual orientation he identifies with, I care about how he uses sexual orientations to paint a portrait that suits his agenda. That is my opinion but I base it on his words and actions. I hope I was able to show what I meant more clearly now, I post this in the tag in case other people shared your concern.

The funny thing is that we have a pretty detailed account of his love life dating back to his early childhood - all first hand accounts direct from Onion himself. In that detailed account he has never expressed any sexual interest in men. All of his former lovers or love interests have been female.

http://eivitunpaskaa.tumblr.com/post/64955025564/how-much-of-the-past-would-you-write-about

He has even admitted as much that he is not sexually attracted to men - even extending this to say that he can’t be sexually attracted to “fat” women.

None of these things are being said lightly, and this ask bugs me because it seems to buy into the notion that just because Gurg says it, then it must be true. There is no evidence to suggest he is anything but a heterosexual man. The fact he is now expressing interest in a celebrity who once tweeted at him a few months back only seems to demonstrate that he is using that as a platform to gain some popularity from that celebrity’s fans. Nothing more.

Adding onto the manipulation/changing his sexual orientation to fit his agenda… 

On May 9th he made a list of words that describe his lifestyle. Heterosexual being one of them.

Not even a week later, on the 15th, he said he was Pansexual to discredit a question that challenged statements he has made multiple times in the past. 

(Images from original post mentioned in the ask. This was brought up by someone else when it happened, but I thought it would be helpful to mention here.)

eoliveson:

onisiontranslations:

"The fact I have subscribers means nothing. I still suck."

Let’s talk for a second about how GW didn’t even win the popular vote during the first election and his complete and total lack of understanding about how elections work in the country HE LIVES AND AND HAD TO LEARN ABOUT IN ELEMENTARY, MIDDLE, AND HIGH SCHOOL TO EVEN GRADUATE.

eoliveson:

onisiontranslations:

"The fact I have subscribers means nothing. I still suck."

Let’s talk for a second about how GW didn’t even win the popular vote during the first election and his complete and total lack of understanding about how elections work in the country HE LIVES AND AND HAD TO LEARN ABOUT IN ELEMENTARY, MIDDLE, AND HIGH SCHOOL TO EVEN GRADUATE.

moralvirus:

eoliveson:

I thought this should be pointed out. Also ignore the background I was using my phone.
-fan submission. Har har, onion. Hilarious.

He’s such a wonderful “ally.”

moralvirus:

eoliveson:

I thought this should be pointed out. Also ignore the background I was using my phone.

-fan submission. Har har, onion. Hilarious.

He’s such a wonderful “ally.”

eoliveson:

People on the tag need to take a step back and reevaluate what they are doing…

Now, I’m not going to point fingers and tell people how they should act or what they should do, but I cannot even visit the tag without giving a sigh of disappointment.

We have such smart intelligent people who run anti-blogs and are going about shit the wrong way. We don’t need to post on every “positive” Onion post his bananas make. Some honestly do not understand what he has done in his past. We are acting no better than the religious groups that ring our doorbells and preach that we are going to hell because we do not believe in what they believe in. There is a difference in commenting on a bananas “Gergs h8terz r dumb for so and so* post, but those who mean nothing bad and are only trying to follow someone they “like.” I would honestly like to see anti people not attacking innocent people. There will come a time when they scan the tag, read what we say and either learn a thing or two from it or totally ignore what we say. We cannot force someone to change their mind. We cannot force someone to feel sympathy for their actions or opinions. That makes us as bad as Gerg himself.

So, please… rethink what is going on in the tag. I see a lot of shit and it is honestly making a lot of us look like assholes. I hope no one takes this personal and if you do then sorry for hurting your feelings. EO isn’t one to say sorry and a lot of you know that, but this shit needs to stop. Like today.

For those with hurt feelings… Here is a hug. C’mere.

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Anonymous asked: I'm not really interested in seeing Troy. I was when he was a newborn but of course Onion ruined that for everyone. I think I wanted to see Onion acting happy with his newborn like proud fathers are but now I think it would be just an act. He really could have changed peoples opinions of him if he had shown the baby at the start and acted like he was finally a family man.

eoliveson:

Yeah, but TayTay never would have let that happen at that point. Too much “stalking”

I totally agree with anon! I totally think that would have changed my perspective on his as well. 

In my mind I always compare him to Philip Defranco because they both have newish babies. Phil seems so thrilled to have a son (Trey?) with constant pictures and videos. Selfies with the baby, swimming with the baby, cuddling with the baby… then there’s Greg, who gives me the illusion that he is not trilled at all… even denying Troy’s existence at times. I mean, I get the no video/photo rule, but I don’t see why he couldn’t talk about Troy or becoming a father. I’m not saying one is a better father than the other or anything like that.. but from my perspective (as a social media viewer) it comes off a bit iffy on Greg’s part. I always wonder how I’d view Greg if he started acting more like Phil in that sense.

chaseagainstonision:

eloiweird:

I want to put forward a hypothesis here—a hypothesis that I realize nobody else is putting out there.  But I‘m only doing it because I can‘t really figure out why nobody else is doing this. 

The reason I‘m doing this is because for weeks now, I feel like I‘ve been waiting for somebody else to say this—somebody else more likely, like someone who was or is a anti-o since 2011.

But so far, nobody has been saying it.  And so, I feel like I have to. And i have been trying for weeks now to disprove it, and i just can‘t.

So, again, I realize nobody else really wants to say this, but I‘m just going to say it. 

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I think Onion Boy is restarting his cult.

If you know this, he started his old cult in 2005. He started his cult on the goal  to stop all animal hunger, any environmental harm, animal abuse and force everyone to be vegetarians and if they disagreed, they would “fall back to the earth.”

He even had a bible. Seriously! Here is one paragraph :

"Countless questions can be asked regarding the existence of mammals, reptiles, even disease and death. Our lives have always held a beginning, and they all will surely one day meet its end. However, our existence is not the only reality that dwells before the universe’s platter. As many know, it is indeed one of the most insignificant, yet despite this, our lives are also remarkable before many other creatures dwelling beyond our eye’s reach."

I think he‘s put himself in a position to get his cult back on track.  I think that everything he‘s done so far has, what‘s the opposite of the Midas touch?

As onion’s fanbase continues to be brainwashed by their fellow cult leader, a concern may now be present. They are drinking the Kool-Aid. That can never be good.

I’ve been making this comment recently and just been calling them a hive mind. it’s sick and disgusting and I’ve even been using the “I hate the hive mind” tag when I see bananas replying with similar arguments and shit.

I actually almost made a side by side comparison to Onision’s treatment of his fans and the way they respond to a list of signs you’re in a cult earlier this week. I never got around to it, but if anyone wants a go at it I think it was called the cult test or something similar. It turned out to be a lot longer than I thought, but I was going to post screen shots of him and bananas portraying the behaviors. 

I do believe… to an extent… he always had some sort of goal. To control people somewhat… With websites he owned as a teen (I remember a strange account from a former member of one of his old forum sites pre-youtube), Sicesca, his “spiritual insight” with the ghost and supernatural powers thing, possibly might have been his end goal in the military, until he found the power of YouTube. Just throw things at the wall and see what sticks. I don’t think it’s fully intentional, more of a personality thing. Idk just a thought. If he wasn’t so socially awkward, I think by now he’d have a Sicesca following in some shared house with a bunch of super fans. He definitely has that type of power at this point, but uses as many excuses as he can to stay physically away from his fans… besides the ones he dates…

Idk I’m all over the place

Onision and sexuality

prettypekuliar:

This is a topic about as confusing as Greg’s history with depression, since it changes whenever it suits him.

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(no that’s not the definition of being pansexual)

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And lastly, from Greg’s post “the ACTUAL truth about Onision”:

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Apparently we can’t even trust the ACTUAL truth about Onision despite it coming from his own mouth (in third person). First of all Greg, you need to do some research on sexual orientations and secondly, could you make up your mind and stop changing your sexuality whenever it suits your agenda?

HYPOCRITE!!

cruachan59:

Can you really love someone without seeing them or knowing much of anything about them? NO. Celebs who say they love their fans: LIARS
YOU got engaged to a 17 yr old FAN that you had NEVER met. You said ” I love you” to two other people before you met them. You REEK of desperation

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chaseagainstonision:

tuneafish:

people who say onision is “so honest” and “keeps it real”

there’s a difference between honesty and literally slandering every group in existence by making rape jokes and saying people are inferior to others and talking about uncomfortable and serious content in a matter which it should not be joked about just because “no one else says it”

newsflash no one else says it because it’s offensive and degrading

just because you make rape/sexism jokes and then say say “women deserve to feel beautiful” once or twice doesn’t mean you’re still a good person

LIKE HIS LAST VIDEO FOR A PERFECT EXAMPLE???

THANK YOU~!