Onision Drama

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misspikapikachuu asked: If you and Greg are still being followed on social media whenever you conceive again will you be announcing the pregnancy like you did for Troy or are you planning to not share any information about any other future kids?

onionkingofbutthurt:

eoliveson:

laineybot:

depends if the internet is still full of people who would wish death on a fetus

No one ever said this. Christ.

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Oh, and does anyone remember Greg’s very polemic “Kill yourself” tirade?

… and I can use the same argument that Greg did when he talked about his fans threatening Shelbyxpwns and her bunny. He gave the “there’s only so much you can do about that” argument.

I guess this means the baby will never be on film. … Good. I’m all for not exploiting an innocent child for money. We all know the kind of ridiculing videos Greg would make with his son. Just look at the videos with his own wife and mother.  

Anonymous asked: In your own opinion do you think onision has done similar things that tom milson and alex day have been doing?

prettypekuliar:

Tw: Onision, Alex Day, Tom Milson taking advantage of fans, abuse etc

I don’t want to compare them too much, and the pain they have inflicted on others since I think pain is entirely our own and I don’t want to in any way try to speak for the victims by trying to decide who is worse and so on. This isn’t really what you asked, but I just wanted to point that out first, because I find it important to note that a victims pain is equally as important and real regardless of who is the worst offender and I don’t want to come off as trying to compare them in that way. I hope that made some sense.

Now to your question, just by looking at their actions and in no way trying to speak for their victims, I have to first say that I am mostly “involved” and informed regarding Onision’s actions so I know a lot more about him than about Alex Day and Tom Milson. But in light of the recent revelations within the Youtube community I have heard a lot of what has been going on with these others Youtubers as well and I have found myself shocked at how many of these big Youtubers are capable and willing to treat people with such disrespect. 

How many of these Youtubers can find it within themselves to treat their fans like something disposable they can use as they please with no consideration of this other person’s feelings and well-being. To fully knowingly take advantage of a fan who admires and looks up to them. To know they have the power to completely manipulate and to not stop at the thought but to also use that power.

To do all this against the very people they owe their success to. I’m disgusted. I don’t think I will ever be able to look at the Youtube community with the same eyes. People you would never have thought to be able to commit such acts have done just that. And unfortunately I feel certain there’s a big number of unknown cases we know nothing about. 

In conclusion, I think they have done very similar things in many ways but I’m not well-informed enough to speak more in detail about what they have done. One thing I can’t stress enough that they do have in common, is their ability and their will to manipulate young impressionable people they know to be their fans into doing things they shouldn’t. That kind of heartless behavior just makes me furious and it makes me certain that these are not people who should get to a position where they have a following in the first place. Because they clearly can’t handle it and in that they clearly don’t deserve it.

I am glad this is being brought to light and that they have to face the consequences they single-handedly brought upon themselves. I feel really bad for the victims and I hope they feel that they have the support of thousands of people and that they are not to blame and owe nothing to these people and I truly admire them for speaking up where many of us would have been too afraid. But ultimately, if you choose to speak up or not, you have a lot of people on your side who along with you see these people for who they are.

And to those who are or were a fan of either of these people, there is nothing wrong with that. You liking their music or their comedy does not mean you like these horrendous actions they’ve committed. But there is also nothing wrong with still criticizing them for what they have done. You don’t owe them to support them in everything they do. You don’t owe them to stand up for them where they’ve messed up. That’s their own job. You don’t owe them to try and silence people who speak up against them. And you won’t let them down by not doing that. This is their work, they messed up and they are the only ones who owe it to anyone to try and fix it. Don’t feel like you owe anything to them. You don’t.

They owe everything to you. Not the other way around.

Anonymous asked: I also find it VERY amusing when people say "but he's not sexist, he likes women more than men" while that's a blatant example of sexism. "Prejudice or discrimination based on a person's sex or gender", but yeah, of course it's okay if he doesn't like men and it's not really sexist because his fanbase is mostly female and he licks their teenage asses all the time.

eoliveson:

OMG RIGHT?

Anonymous asked: What baffles me is that he continues to pursue this youtube career of his. He's clearly more than physically capable to make living by picking another job. It will stop all the 'haters' and all the 'harassment' he receives and eliminate the 'threat' that he feels exists for his child. All he does on youtube is just digging himself his own grave, while it's so easy to offer public apologies and quit.

eoliveson:

I think he does it to feed his ego. A 9-5 would make him an average joe. No one would praise him

Anonymous asked: I'm friends with his mom on fb and she's always talking about how she can't post pictures of Troy because "people threatened his life" and she can only talk about him if Greg says so. Also he wasn't born until around the third of Jan

eoliveson:

Oh please. Show me the proof of the legitimate threats. Fucking propaganda.

Anyway, that would make him close to 13 weeks old?

urby87:

ONION LOGIC: Women are so superior to men that they need men to keep them company, marry them, buy them things, and open doors for them.   Because they’re so superior.  Men do these things for women as a sign of submission and admittance to their inferiority.  It would be unthinkable for a woman to ever do these things for a man!
From the video "WOMEN & LOW SELF-ESTEEM"
So I’m not even going to touch the blatant heteronormativity here, and just say that I hold doors open for people (regardless of their gender) because it’s a nice thing to do.  I pick up tabs sometimes because it’s a nice thing to do.  I don’t see this as catering to somebody or a service to them, I just see it as being nice.
And this is the same video where he mentions that even ugly women can still get a man because they have a vagina.  He refers to women as life factories and implies that this is where their value comes from.  So women who are infertile, or women who choose not to reproduce are therefore worthless.  Way to go, Onion!

urby87:

ONION LOGIC: Women are so superior to men that they need men to keep them company, marry them, buy them things, and open doors for them.   Because they’re so superior.  Men do these things for women as a sign of submission and admittance to their inferiority.  It would be unthinkable for a woman to ever do these things for a man!

From the video "WOMEN & LOW SELF-ESTEEM"

So I’m not even going to touch the blatant heteronormativity here, and just say that I hold doors open for people (regardless of their gender) because it’s a nice thing to do.  I pick up tabs sometimes because it’s a nice thing to do.  I don’t see this as catering to somebody or a service to them, I just see it as being nice.

And this is the same video where he mentions that even ugly women can still get a man because they have a vagina.  He refers to women as life factories and implies that this is where their value comes from.  So women who are infertile, or women who choose not to reproduce are therefore worthless.  Way to go, Onion!

eoliveson:

600 will be sooner than projected, even.

eoliveson:

600 will be sooner than projected, even.

Anonymous asked: Re: Lamo Lying: Yeah she lied about when they started dating. This was probably due to a mixture of her age (Onion didn't want crap for dating another 17 year old and a high schooler). They came out with their relationship after she was at University (but still 17). The timing was also an issue for them - he had just flipped out on Sh moving on and like a week later he moved on.

eivitunpaskaa:

When he gave Sh shit for moving on so fast I couldn’t help but laugh. He’s the one who served his ex wife with divorce papers then 6 days later uploads a video of him hitting a deer with Sh’s voice at the end saying they will remember that day for the rest of their lives. Clearly it wasn’t just 6 days that it took him to get over his marriage ending if he was already planning to drive to canada to boink underage girls. 

I saw this oldie the other day, thought it was relevant.  Lies & moving on.